Thousand tournaments

Listen Guys - Mannid!! Is it true that we are playing a game based on ratings? Where is the pleasant pastime? It doesn't matter if you get a little more or less. It's more of a problem if you play with your teeth clenched and your fists raised and you swear. It's good that Meikop&CO wants to develop the thing and develop a pleasant site. Sorry if it sounded like a moral sermon, but a few dozen punches here and there are really spot on.

I don't have a main path, I still want to win in tournaments, I don't go to 4-person family tournaments anymore. I also understand something about Saskus, I don't understand anything about tournament points in a thousand, and I don't complain either. Yesterday, a person said that he plays here for fun, well, I go, it's a good pastime that you understand something about and it's even interesting, but tournaments in a thousand are not interesting to me. But one Estonian eats another. You're right. I have an example from my own hand. I did Altuura for 11 hours. I came from work. I ate my fill so that I could do a few Saskus and go to sleep. I went in and said hello. I had no choice, the board crossed ten squares were made trump. And then when I fell down, I was still scolded heavily and during the whole game when I managed to write back that I had a board ten... oh well, then I would have gotten a small apology, no... the appetite for the game was gone. Once I also said when the partner in the second round hit tr with an ace that the second round was a person who was offended, so why are you scolding me? I didn't scold him, I just made a small remark that maybe he'll be smarter next time. But kudos to the makeup artist for getting the points for the 4-person family tournaments fixed. I was also one of the biggest whiners, of course, there were other whiners there too, but now I'm happy and the others don't whine anymore, so it was also useful. And still, be active if anyone has a good idea on how to improve the game.

..or the same as in regular thousand: if you don't play well, you give your opponents more points. It's not important in the (normal) case if one of your opponents "bossed", you can then give him your eyes, the same goes for someone who has already played the bid (this also applies in a tournament). In my opinion, the problem is still (as in regular thousand) this forced 60 rule, especially when others fold and the "60-man" has great cards. On the one hand, it seems fair that others have bad cards anyway, on the other hand, it again leans towards a risk-free game, meaning the beauty of the game is reduced. We could come up with something here... I would simply offer 1 option for discussion: give the position left at 60 the opportunity to still make a new and final offer, but you won't get full points for it. Examples: offers 100, 80 will be counted; offers 120, 110 will be counted in the table for 90 and 160 - or 50%. This percentage could be smaller, but it would give an additional opportunity to risk playing out a more realistic offer. The main point of the proposal would actually be that the so-called defenders on the table would then also get an extra with a coefficient :D. You should just consider the proportions. .

I have an idea because playing in a thousand and playing in tournaments is like night and day. I would also like the tournaments in a thousand to be similar. Of course, I don't know if that's feasible, that's a question in itself. My suggestion is to play tournaments the same way as regular games, that as much as you can is also recorded, if you don't get enough, if you shout 120, it also goes down. For example, there are 11 rounds and the tournament ends, whoever has the most points is the winner, whether the winner has 600 points or 900, because it's still a game, then over 1000, no one can add more points. If it happens that someone else also reaches 1000, the winners will share the points, but this happens very rarely. I think that would be a good idea. The plus is that everyone can see how far away and in what position they are at the moment and finally see whether to take risks or not. And everyone would understand the tournament points system. I don't think it's necessary to take any percentages, any averages of the tables, etc. How to make it so that everyone plays with the same cards..to be fair and equal is it even possible? I believe it is. What do you think? You can express your opinion in a few words, like or dislike, I won't be offended... and of course, if the winner is gray, he gets a lot more points than the winner is blue.

Of course it's great that the tournament was held. But it could be changed a little, it's quite difficult to get blue in a normal ton, it takes time, with a tournament you can get it quickly. Yes, the most important thing is entertainment, but then you could give up on rating altogether.

I would suggest that the tournament ton and the practice ton be with different gear

This idea is not very popular: http://www.vint.ee/mod/Forum/read-thread/?thread=8979

I thought I wouldn't play a thousand tournaments anymore, but today I still did one. Twice during the tournament I get 0 points, and so do many others in my position. I get 0 tournament points, while some get 100 tournament points with their 0 points. Where is the logic? If you can't think of anything else, it would make more sense to stick with the original option, where only the points played and offered were compared.

Would a similar system like the turakas be conceivable?

Chessman66, I once played a regular thousand. I had a bad hand, I didn't get any tricks. I got 0 points. One opponent made a club trump and took a bunch of tricks, but got -200 points. Where is the logic? I'll answer your question about logic. The point of a tournament thousand (in my opinion) is that the randomness resulting from the strength of the cards has been significantly reduced. This increases the proportion of playing skill, because the results obtained with the same cards are compared. In other words, to get a good result in a tournament thousand you don't have to have a good hand. The proportion of luck/chance inevitably remains. You don't necessarily have to play well to get a good result. For example, you can get a good result because of an opponent's mistake. The biggest problem with the current tournament thousand (in my opinion) is that calculating tournament points using the place-point method doesn't work, because it encourages taking big risks (e.g. bidding high in the hope of a good flop), and taking risks in turn increases the proportion of luck/chance. Of course, skill is still important, but to a lesser extent. I recommend using the tournament points method described at 23:36 27.02.2016. It is essentially the same as the "all points count" proposal by kamby et al., but with 2 differences: 1. If all tables score 120 0 0, then no one wins or loses tournament points. 2. If one table scores 120 60 0 and another table (with the same cards) scores 60 0 -60, then the corresponding positions score the same number of points (120 on the first table is as good as 60 on the second table).