New game idea - Gentleman

I guess it has been discussed before, but I would like to propose it again. It is a game that has many different names in the vernacular and it is possible that many people do not know the name of the gentleman. There is a gentleman, a si.aratas (sorry, it is not my invention and I do not intend to insult!), a chiromant... The game is a bit like Bismarck - taking tricks. But you have to make a bid on a certain number of cards, how many tricks you will take. If you get exactly, you get 5 points, if less, you get the corresponding number of minuses, if more, you get pluses again. In short - you know this game. What do you think, would a guy play this game too?

I see that this game is currently the most popular in the poll. Now someone could write down the exact rules of the game here :)

Maybe this game? It was played with three players, maybe four players and six players. In the three-player game, the rounds were from 1 trick to 12 tricks and back, i.e. the cards were dealt to that number of hands. I think trump was also made. The first two bidders could say the number of tricks they wanted, the third bidder couldn't say so that everyone would get what they offered. For example, 5 cards, the first wants 1 trick, the second 2 tricks, then the third can't say that he wants 2 tricks. I don't remember the scoring so precisely. 5 extra points for fulfilling the contract, otherwise I guess the number of tricks.

I also know a similar scoring system to Seto, where if you bid correctly you get 5 extra points tricks. If you lie, you get points according to the tricks taken. The first round is as follows. The dealer deals everyone one card and makes a trump on the table. The next player after the dealer starts bidding. If he takes 1 and the other player bids 0, then the last player MUST bid one, because the number of cards and bids cannot match. To make things even, the first round is played 3 times with one card, just like the last round, where the next player after the dealer makes a trump from the first 3 cards.

This is exactly how it is played in most places in Estonia, as far as I know. All sorts of other variants with jokers, with which you can ask for higher cards on the opening move; so-called variants, where "pit six" (the highest card of a given suit) etc. etc. In the variant mentioned by Lokster, we once had developed rank norms in a three-player game, where RSM (international grandmaster) was 150 points and men's 1st rank 120, etc. This game makes the most sense with three players. And as mentioned, the first-last(!) 1-card and middle 12-card rounds are played three times. The main excitement is that the last hand often determines whether an under- or overbid (essentially taking or giving away) then so-called tactical twists :D . I have also played with other point systems, but this one seemed the most objective (contract bonus 5 points then tids). I have even converted entire tables to the so-called Russian system (1 tid 10, 2 tids 20, etc., if the contract is in order; minus 10 for each less tid and in the case of a Null tid, only 5 points with the contract). The first place never changed, exceptionally the 2nd-3rd place could change just because of a lot of bad card runs in one hand (constant zeros).

In fact, you don't even have to play through the entire deck. You can agree when playing with three people that up to 6 cards will be dealt. And the fact that single bets and maximum bets should be played through between all participants also comes to mind. Of course, in the case of a turn, you probably wouldn't be able to do all of this and you have to be lucky! In the end, the one with the higher rating when the die is cast wins anyway. There was also one such (two-player) game where the 2 of spades was worth either 2 or 15 points, the 10 of diamonds was worth either 10 or 16 points, the aces were worth either 1 or 14 points, and where you could rearrange the combinations on the board in your favor with the aim of bringing home more points in the end. I don't remember the name of this game anymore, but I wouldn't play it. Maybe someone, e.g. RSM rababalm, remembers more?

I haven't thought about the tournament version... So, playing with three people, 3 3 3 (2x10)= 29 hands placing at tables and making bids, smells like at least 45m-1h of time. Apparently, in the 1st, last and middle rounds (the ones that are played 3 times) the same faces will remain on the table as at the beginning of the rounds. In the interim, players must be moved up first according to how many of the last "hands" were. I would start with the regular version for now. I also remembered that in the 12th rounds, trump was not made according to the first three cards like in Bismarck, but trump was taken so-called random - when playing live, the shuffler simply showed any card from the deck in the meantime, which became trump. I have very vague memories of the two-player game that Setu mentioned, but I think I once came across a group where they tried to play and teach it :D... Among the exciting card games, I could mention Canasta, which was once quite clear, but now I can't remember practically anything....

Years ago I switched to a variant where all the cards are dealt each time. I have also taught gentlemen in Kullo with these rules. I don't know how many people find it attractive to play with one card, when on the last hand you have to bid zero with a trump ace or even worse one with a snip of a second suit :). Anyway, by constantly playing with the whole deck, you could make a certain number of deals or play to a certain score

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