Is poker a mind sport?

The game must be free of randomness. I have played both chess and poker, and to claim that chess is free of randomness is, in my opinion, completely absurd.

Describe the random variations of chess! All chess moves are the result of the decisions of the opponents. Or the result of indecision or poor concentration, or brain freedom.

Since the white helmsman has a significant advantage, just by drawing the button color, one side, through chance, gains an advantage :)

verywell-smells of demagoguery.

In poker you don't see your opponent's cards and you guess what they have by betting and body language. Even if you have pocket aces, there's a chance your opponent got something on the flop and has it. If you could see your opponent's cards, it would be a different story. In chess, both sides see what's on the board and it's far from random. Of course, even Kasparov has made a mistake because he retreated into a corner due to a difficult position and didn't notice the other side of the board.

You're right, Kraska! However, the omission of the prank cannot be statistically attributed to chance, it's simply an error in thinking or attention.

Let's also bring out the chess percentages: [IMG]http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/597/malewk.jpg[/IMG] Based on my data. It is not excluded that better players would have it even higher. In general, it is self-evident that the probability of winning or losing is close to 50%. I do not argue that better players have it higher, but it does not show randomness in the game.

Since this topic seems to be relevant due to the upcoming selection of the (individual) EMV 5th area of the mental sports, I'll dig it up again. MIND GAME = THOUGHT GAME "Rock-paper-scissors", for example, is not suitable, because there is (not much) to think about. The same can be said about the memory game - it is not random, but the result does not depend (almost at all) on thinking skills, but mostly on knowledge. Then solving sudoku should not be included in the category of mental games, because it is not a game again, but more like a task. You could just as well solve math problems or calculate something after a while... The best mental games are probably areas like chess, checkers and gomoku, where all the information is public and chance does not play a noticeable role in determining the winner, but I also have nothing against bridge, poker or other card games. In these games (as in chess, for example), the better player MOSTLY wins, and the better player is the one who (in addition to more experience) has a better mind - so why not? It's a matter of personal preference whether mind games competitions should only have MIND GAMES, but they could.

I guess sudoku, bridge (or even a memory game) provide a nice change from the multi-player competition. Sudoku in pairs is also unique in the sense that in principle, a person like me who is completely untalented in sudoku (to be honest, I'm not really interested in the subject) can theoretically win in a pair with Tiidu, even if I just chew my pen with a thoughtful face, without writing a single number :). In bridge, it can also happen that the stronger partner can make most of the important decisions, but the partner should still at least be able to throw a suit to a suit. Unfortunately, in chess, Carlssen can't possibly bring more than 7 points to the pair.