Thousand tournaments

Cauchy! You should give examples of bids over 120, both when fulfilling the bid agreement and not (in the case of minuses); then an example of how the calculations are made when one table leaves 60 and another table offers 95 with the same cards, plays full (for example 97, 13, 10) and the third table offers 100 (-100(97 points), 13,10 or -100 (80 points), 24, 16). If these examples were compared in the current situation and the one you offer, many would understand better...

As for leaving 60, I would say that it is a good job by the defense. In a regular game, it is the same - if you leave a pair of clubs on 60, there is nothing you can do. However, if the defense starts to offer 65, 70 "just in case" - then it is a bad offer... and the result will probably be bad for the defense (if the 0 position plays 120 with its pair of clubs, etc.).

However, this regular variant here is also proportionally different, at least compared to what was played 15 years ago and earlier. The so-called bočka was on 880 and the dealer's 1st hand had to bid the minimum, which I guess was a little different in different regions, in my area it was 80. The much talked about four 9 variants are also different. You could also get a fourth 9 on the flop, but to get a 100 point you were not allowed to split it and you also had to show it before starting to act.

If no one has any better ideas, then Thousand Tournaments version number 3 will be as follows: 1) The user's ability to play out the highest possible game score with their cards, while taking as many tricks as possible, is evaluated. 2) When distributing tournament points, the user's results are compared with the results of others who played in the same position on other tables (without averaging / nominating the results). 3) Game results that differ by less than 20 points are considered equal. 4) If the game results differ by 20 or more points, the player who achieved the higher score receives more tournament points. 5) For the same game results (even if the results differ by less than 20 points), the number of tricks taken is compared as a second criterion. With a higher number of tricks, the player also receives more tournament points. What do we achieve with such changes? a) The proportion of playing out is still important (you have to take as many tricks as possible) b) You no longer have to take crazy risks when bidding. The bids of 120 and 130 played out are equally good if the same number of tricks were taken. 120 is even better if more tricks were taken when playing out than in the case of 130. However, 140 is a better result than 120 (regardless of the number of tricks) c) Seeing that the bid out is unsuccessful (for example, -120 is coming), you have to play as well as possible until the end (take as many tricks as possible), because in comparison you are on the same level with both -105 and -135 receivers. d) The result of the tournament no longer depends on the content of one trick e) The result of the defensive position no longer depends on how much was dared to bid at my table and how much at other tables

It looks good! :) . Life will tell, but this 20 should be just right, because the defenders' points generally do not differ by more than 20 points for the same number of tricks (even on the same board). The defender's risk of putting the winner of the bid into a deficit at the expense of his own points (either by throwing his eyes or trying to make a trump card) has existed in every variant (including the regular game), perhaps now there is less incentive for this.

One idea I had was that if someone at the table gets a minus, the others get, for example, 75 tournament points. Regardless of trick points/defense trump.

So equally 75? And on the previous topic, 1 question, is it theoretically possible that in three tables, in the same position, the same number of tricks are obtained, for example 120, 135 and 150, and if so, which "party" does the 135 man end up in :)? . Actually, it is, for example, I will say: the winner of the bid with a pair of clubs and before the flop without an ace. The land gets an ace of clubs, the defense is a ten of clubs, which comes out on the 1st move, 2 tricks then come with a K and Q of clubs so that the 150 bidder also has a full...

Do I understand correctly that the defender's result depends only on the number of tricks and trick points he has collected, but not on the results of his tablemates? Same question about declarer. If the results are obtained with the same cards: 62 (3 tricks) 50 (4 tricks) 38 (5 tricks) Can it be said that 38 is better than 50? 50 is better than 62? 62 is better than 38? I would like to see an example of tournament points for Vol3. The current description is a bit complicated for me.

It could be that only the winner of the bid gets plus points and the loser of the bid gets minus points, and everyone else gets 0 points.

So you should take examples of game situations: at least the average and 2 extreme situations and compare the so-called 3 versions... or how many points the player would have received in versions 1, 2 and 3. I don't know if it's possible, but the best way would be to take a tournament that has already taken place with a large number of participants and then recalculate the entire table for comparison of the 3 variants. The weakness, of course, is that many have nevertheless designed their offers and playing style according to the rules. Therefore, it would be fairer to take the first tournaments after the new version was released as a basis.