Gentleman

1 good card game, which was played from 1979 to 2002, was dzenetlmen - both in Estonia and Russia. A few years ago there were a few posts about this game here, but that's all. If you compare the so-called level, then it's definitely a "harder" game than bismarck or tuhut. At one time, we even developed so-called master standards for this game. For those who haven't heard, in terms of play, it's like bismarck with 2 variants - taking or giving away... What makes the game interesting is that you have to guess how many tricks you'll take before playing out a specific round, and those who guess correctly get bonus points :) What makes it more complicated is that when playing with three people (also with four people), the last position must offer their number of tricks in such a way that in the end, one of the bidders is forced to make a mistake, i.e. the number of tricks offered must not match. Different marking systems have been tried and the final results do not change in terms of order, when compared to the so-called Russian system (10 points for a trick taken according to the offer, less -10 and just a point for each trick over) or the Estonian system, where the reward for an accurate guess is 5 points 1 point for each trick, which you get anyway, so less than when taking over. Anyway, when I actively played cards myself, I think that this game was 3rd in popularity in our country and if you don't count the selected game - bridge - then even 2nd!! You could try Vindis...

Maybe I'm messing something up, but it's not like this (sitaratas), where at the beginning you get one, two, etc. card and then back, you also have to guess whether you'll get a trick or not. You used to play it for pennies.

This game goes 1-9 and 9-1 back I guess if yes then I have played this game too it was definitely a more interesting game than Bism

When playing with four people yes 1-9 and back. A much nicer game with three, i.e. 1-1-1-2-3....12-12-12-11-10.....2-1-1-1. The first, last and middle parts are played through three times. A good game has several names: I've heard of diplomat, cow, but I can't remember the Russian ones anymore. For the game with three people we had rank norms developed during our student days :D : RSM (international master); M (master); MK; M1 (men's first rank) :p ; M2, M3; N1 (women's 1), N2,N3 up to RS (people's athlete) ... We still played very often. Of course, you could also play a thousand and you had to do squats to get the difference in points with the winner; push-ups worth the gentleman's difference in points (you could also choose 10 times more squats in number) :p

Yes, it's a good game. Especially with three players. My rank in this game is UM (Master of the Universe).

We played this game under the name of joker. In a later version of the game, two jokers were used, the stronger spade 6 and the weaker club 6. And we used the Russian system. For each correctly guessed trick you got 5 points (0 exactly was 5 points), if you got more tricks then the number of tricks was points. If you lost then each missing trick was -10. The last hand could not offer a number that would be comparable to the number of possible tricks. With the joker on your turn you could ask for either the highest trumps or the top of the suit. You could ask for a suit to give. You could not offer three 0s in a row for that you got -10.

"s**aratas" yes :) it could be here. I still play often, but for the version then if the offer is correct the number of tricks 5 points.

Hi, I have a Christmas break coming up - I'd like to try a new game! Right now, Dzentelmen seems like the best choice. A few questions - with 4 players, there are 17 rounds in total? 1-9-1?, with 3 players, 23 rounds? 1-12-1? Should we make the game longer? Should we play a 3- or 4-player game? We can also play both versions (in the game room). At the tournament, we need to agree beforehand on how many tables are better (4 - fewer rounds?). Maybe experts can recommend, I haven't played this game myself. One more question - is there no trump in this game?

Or do we make a compromise - have a 3-player table in the game room so that it's easier to fill the table, and a 4-player table in the tournament so that there are fewer rounds?

I wonder why they make a game that most people have never heard of. I've long proposed making a card game in berry, but for some reason it doesn't work. Or is it just a bug in my user? I think berry is much better than the mean Gentleman. Of course, that's my opinion, it could be wrong, no need to start being ironic right away.